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Which community is bigger? Which app suite has a larger install base. The problem is that neither app is quite comparable to Office, in my opinion; neither has stolen market share from Office. A divided community will close the gap even slower.


LibreOffice is now default Office suite in OpenSUSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and maybe others. So I guess that that the LibreOffice will get a larger user base soon.


That was done as a reaction to Oracle, if OpenOffice becomes viable again and gains traction it can change back.

LibreOffice's staying power depends on how much of their effort was simply "sticking it to Oracle", if they get bored and fade away then so will LibreOffice.

Apart from nerds there is no loyalty to the product just to getting the job done, if the word processor opens their documents then users simply don't care. Similarly most users don't use Office because it is Office, they use it because it is there.


I was commenting on the remark that the fork should be merged.

You cannot modify the source of Microsoft Office. Comparing office suites is an entirely different topic.

I don't see a divided community. One project is really active and alive, then a year later OOorg tries to start something else.

It seems inefficient to have this split. But that is the same for everything. Why have different languages, multiple OSes, multiple distributions, desktop environments, etc. Might be inefficient, but unless you take away peoples freedom to do what they want, I don't see this changing.

Trying to compete with Microsoft Office seems futile anyway. I'd rather have a focus on making a good office suite. It doesn't really matter if it can do everything that Microsoft Office can.


I believe IBM still support OOo. At the time of the fork, they were (and still are) making Lotus Symphony (free as-in beer, based on OOo code)

  OpenOffice.org - Apache License
  LibreOffice - LGPLv3


I know that is the reason for starting the OOorg on Apache, so the license stuff is easier for IBM.

I just don't think it'll work. Most distribution companies prefer GPL because in that case everybody benefits. You cannot take the work of all companies, then do your on thing on top and don't give back.

Believe it would be easier to not have Lotus Symphony open source. That, or change strategy and rely on brandname. I don't think it matters much that something is fully open sourced and can be reused by another company.

Marketing, trademark and strong brand (meaning: trusted, supported, reliable) goes a long way. Can still ask money for it, and if someone wants to give it away for free they'll have to use a different name for it (similar to the Firefox name in Debian).


The Iceweasel name in Debian is not because Debian give away Firefox for free (as in no cost), it's because Mozilla only allow you to call the software Firefox if you use an official build (or get permission for non-official builds), and I believe the artwork also has a proprietary licence, making it non-free by Debian's definition.


Exactly. Fragmentation is the only thing that holds back the next level of open source adoption.


0x12: Please explain "the only thing". I don't see this; it way more complex than this. To me it seems that the different options+projects is why we have really good solutions, even if sometimes some things take a bit longer to be developed.

e.g. project a is developed. Design is wrong according to another group, they develop project b, then maybe you get project c. Messy on the short term. Long term, seems only the high quality projects survive.


I don't see "only the high quality projects" surviving in the long term. Using and watching Linux since 1997, I mostly see a constant, perpetual flux and incohesiveness. And a lot of damn fine projects abandoned.

For example, Nautilus (the file manager, in it's original design). ReiserFS. Omega (the unicode alternative TeX implementation). The Fresco windowing system. Enlightenment E17. The Parrot VM. ...


Ehr.. Nautilus still exists, it wasn't abandoned. IIRC E17 is used on various phones, Reiser killed someone, Parrot is still under development.

Perpetual flux and incohesiveness is too management speak for me. Loads of people who scratch an itch working out in the open.

Look inside a big company, pretty much the same thing going on.


> Nautilus still exists, it wasn't abandoned.

Actually it was. Current day Nautilus has little to do with the original scope and functionality of the project as envisioned (and promoted) by Eazel. It's like saying Hurd still exists. Yeah, but hardly anybody uses it and it failed to fulfill what it promised for 25 years.

> IIRC E17 is used on various phones

Yeah, which all of 5 people use, and one of them is Rasterman.

> Reiser killed someone

Isn't an often repeated premise of OSS that a project can keep on despite being abandoned by its' leaders?

> Parrot is still under development

Still in perpetual flux.

> Perpetual flux and incohesiveness is too management speak for me.

It's also something felt everyday by common people and expert hard core users alike.

> Look inside a big company, pretty much the same thing going on.

Companies tend not to fuck too much with the flagship programs, revenue streams, and seldom just for the "fun of it".

How many times, for example, has the KDE multimedia infrastructure been replaced with something entirely different only for this to happen again?




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