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I'll just wear myself out if I keep letting myself respond to feelings-based comments like yours with facts, like how NYC is below the national average in crime safety [1] and well below national average on obesity. [2]

I shouldn't exert myself pointing out that the average cost of a vehicle is about $5000 per year [3], which costs a lot more than the unlimited miles you can travel with a $75/month bus/train pass in Chicago. [4]

It would probably blow the minds of car-dwellers to find out that it only takes 20 minutes to walk a mile. [5]

[1] https://realestate.usnews.com/places/new-york/new-york-city/...

[2] https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/obesity.pa...

[3] https://www.move.org/average-cost-owning-a-car/

[4] https://www.transitchicago.com/fares/

[5] https://www.nike.com/a/how-long-does-it-take-to-walk-a-mile



> it only takes 20 minutes to walk a mile

Which means you have massive delays between stops, and can’t do much if you don’t have hours available.


You know in cities there's trains, buses, and cabs, right?

Especially in a city like NYC, essentially everything you need is within a mile. I live in Tokyo right now, and everything I need for daily life is within a quarter of a mile. I can get basically anywhere in the city in 30 minutes.


Awesome, you’ve named the features of the downtown of two of the densest and most expensive cities in the world.

You know cities aren’t all like that?


Tokyo doesn't really have a downtown, and what I described works for most of Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto and Sapporo. I think it mostly covers all 5 boroughs of NYC.

I lived without a car in SF for 10 years and I think it covers that city as well. A lot of international cities work the same way.




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