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> There are a large number of people who would never want to have a private conversation or meeting using Facebook infrastructure or be forced to create a Facebook account to join a meeting.

A large number of people in your circle / on HN / etc perhaps, but I think the vast majority of the general population have no such concern.



Yes and no.

If you talk about privacy they don’t care but they absolutely do when it comes to “I was talking to my friend about X and suddenly I’m seeing ads for it everywhere - my phone must be listening to me”. Their phone may not actually be listening to them but as soon as they see what it means, people hate how their data is used. They just never made the connection before.


Doesn't matter. This device was clearly targeting corporate market where clueless individuals don't make purchase decisions on things like that.

Facebook is not very popular among IT people in corporate world.


It wasn't targeting the corporate market at first. It was conceived and designed as a consumer-oriented device.


Didn't know that. In that case how was this device supposed to compete with smartphones or tablets that we already have?


Totally different usecase. My elderly parents LOVE theirs - it's simple to make calls, the camera quality is great, the automatic pan and zoom was top notch (especially for following toddlers around the room, which was crucial to them to see their grandchildren during lockdown).

The story mode was much loved as well - my mother (an ex kindergarten teacher) would read the stories to my niece and nephew and they loved the AR effects and filters it applied to her, in tandem with the story.


It’s clearly not intended to compete with a smartphone. It’s 50 times the size and mains powered. It’s intended to be an always-on device with a wide camera and large screen that makes it easy for a few people to talk on video. Like video conferencing.

My family uses them so my parents can see my kids and they are great. We plop down on the floor in front of it and everyone has a chat, sees the kids, etc. propping up phones and straining to hear/see things is much inferior.


The elevator pitch I heard, was that it would be ideal for connecting grandparents who would struggle with existing videoconferencing software. So it would be a supplemental device -- not a replacement -- with ease of use for non-technical people being a main driver of adoption. It would be a wonderful gift to help keep in touch, though pricey.

This was conceived prior to the implosion of the Facebook brand during the Cambridge Analytical revelations. It's hard to say for sure how successful Portal would have been in another universe where that didn't happen.


No one had heard of Zoom in January 2020.

If it worked the way people wanted and was available in April 2020 people would have used it.


And yet the corporate world is increasingly on Facebook's Workspace.


I think it's very helpful of those corporations to clearly signal that they are a bad place to work.




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