The Trump lies didn't cause an entire region to collapse in war and cause hundreds of thousands of deaths. The only way to think of bush as being better than Trump is if you are completely neck deep into American partisan politics. Lying about elections is not worse than a war that ruined entire generations in the middle east. Not even close actually.
That's rationalization. The middle east wasn't on the verge of collapse, that's ludicrous. even if it was, it doesn't justify the invasion! Again, those deaths are squarely americas fault. It would be like arguing that eh, Putin isnt so bad since Ukraine was in a state of quasi civil war anyways. But the civil war was caused in huge part due to Russian meddling in Ukraine, just like the instability in the middle east in 2003 was due to the war on terror and the decades of playing king makers by the US.
In any case, Trump still led to an order of magnitude less deaths than Bush. As a non American (and a Muslim) that's all that matters. Everything else is irrelevant outside of the US. And arguing that lying is worse than killing is again, quite extreme partisanship.
It's weird to see the rhetoric shifting to "well the Iraq war was acshually not that bad because... We need to rehabilitate bush and we need Trump to be the worse like, ever!". No, Iraq did not deserve an invasion based on lies. No matter how bad Saddam was, the most affected were the Iraqis.
It literally was, Saddam Hussein started 2 wars, 1 genocide alone - he was during the 90s the biggest risk for stability in the Middle east.
Syria was still trying to do pan-arabism by destabilizing any country it deemed going against this ambition.
Lebanon had JUST stopped it's 25 year civil war,
countless terrorist organizations springing up and the list goes on and on.
I never stated it justified the invasion, I'm just pointing out that proclaiming that the USA with 1 war caused the entire middle east to implode is not true.
The only truth to the instability of the middle east is a mixture of the Cold war and political movement such as pan-arabism and Islamism, these caused the biggest political instability and thus decadent and stagnant power structure in those countries (effectively that of typical power over everything).
You said it yourself, as a non-american, of course, I never said "globally speaking", I specifically said for Americans.
The Iraq war would have been a different story if there was an actual understand by the Bush administration of what actually was the fundamental issues with Iraq beyond the maniac decision making of Saddam Hussein.
The fact that the Bush administration in it's arrogance believed the naive belief of bringing democracy & freedom to Iraqis was all would be required to ensure stability in the region was and still is a painful lesson for the western world on how to create stability in an unstable nation.
From what I know people are nostalgic towards Bush because he seems more diplomatic, compromising and composed than what Trump does - while defiantly not true while Bush was in office, people like putting on rose tinted glasses when presented with the bleak present.
