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I don't believe the elections have any amount of integrity in the US. The system of controls in place are laughable at best. When the physical recount doesn't match the voting day totals, the original totals are kept (see Jill Stein vs Hillary in 2016). It's just pathetic all the way around.

That said, Mike Lindell is a fraud charlatan. The fact that Trump hitched his wagon, directly or indirectly, to clowns like him shows how weak of a statesman he really is. I agreed with many of Trump's policies, but his ability to execute is pitiful.



Manual recounts tend to be full of error opportunities, so that policy is pretty sensible to me. Maybe if you did a large number of manual recounts and took an average or the most common value or something, it might work. A single manual recount is not deserving of any trust whatsoever.

Manual recounts are a safety blanket for people who haven't thought through what it costs and what it actually gets you.


We're not talking about a discrepancy of 1 or 2 votes. We're talking hundreds of votes.


Yes, that tends to happen when you do manual recounts. That's my point. They're unreliable as hell.

You see a chance to validate a pile of 100k votes. I see 100k chances for human error.


That's not how recounts work. Please, inform yourself.


It's absolutely how recounts work.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/arizona-republica...

> Election workers spent three days counting 850 ballots in Mohave County. They made errors in 46 races.

> Each ballot took three minutes to count, Tempert said. At that pace, it would take a group of seven staffers at least 657 eight-hour days to count 105,000 ballots, the number of ballots cast in 2020. Mohave County would need to hire at least 245 people to tally results and have counting take place seven days a week, including holidays, for nearly three weeks. That estimate doesn’t include the time needed for reconciling mistakes, or counting write-in ballots, Tempert’s report added.

This from a county that went 75% for Trump in 2020 and really wanted this to work, incidentally.


Unlike the Stein recount, it seems Mohave County actually possessed the ballots. I'm talking about 100's of ballots going 'missing' and having no paper trail whatsoever.

Also, 46 'races' out of 30k+ races, because for whatever reason, they count each individual vote up and down the ballot as a 'race.' So, 46 errors out of over 30k.

Tellingly, this article doesn't indicate whether the presidential race results were accurate within any margin, nor does it indicate whether the actual vote totals matched what was reported on election night.


Ok, how about this? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120202151713.h...

"Hand counting of votes in postelection audit or recount procedures can result in error rates of up to 2 percent, according to a new study from Rice University and Clemson University."

If you've got 100k votes to recount, you might have up to 2000 errors, according to this research.




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