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After placing all of Europe on permanent winter time, going by the image provided, this proposal seeks to split Ireland's time zone from the UK's and place it a further hour earlier, thereby ensuring that the sun will begin setting at 2:30PM, and it will be pitch black out at 3:30PM in the winter, all in the name of achieving "permanent time zones as close as possible to solar time (natural time) in Europe."

Well done.



>"permanent time zones as close as possible to solar time (natural time) in Europe."

It doesn't even do that for most people in Ireland, according to its own map! As it appears to be based on land mass without regard to population density, the majority of the population would most naturally be in the Western European Time Zone, but they'd be pushed into the Azores Time Zone. A government in Dublin is not going to agree to a time zone change that wouldn't make sense for Dublin, and that's even ignoring the extreme political problems and potential violence and unrest involved with Ireland and Northern Ireland being in different time zones.

For that matter, Greece is understandably not going to agree to any change in time zones that results in a map where its islands that Turkey disputes are changed to be the same colour as Turkey, rather than Greece. Neither is Cyprus. It would be a bit like asking either the government of Taiwan to start using simplified characters, or the PRC to start using traditional characters, and simply saying that it would make language support on computers simpler.

I would support a reasonable proposal to end DST and have more natural time zones. But it has to at least consider factors other than just land masses and solar time, or it will never be a viable proposal. Their "full document" and "justification" doesn't include any discussion of the political ramifications or of population densities. They don't appear to give any justification of their specific country-level recommendations at all.


Exactly. This proposal is absolutely soul-crushing for most people. Having extended daylight hours when people are actually awake in the evening is critical for positive mental health.


Studies show that you want those daylight hours to morning less depressions and sleeping problems.


Are you following that we're talking absorbing a 2:30PM dusk to achieve this? That's worse than northern Finland. It's absurd and foolish. Those studies are failing to take northern latitudes' extreme swings into account when trying to legislate timezones...from Barcelona.


This is extremely at odds with what I actually want: longer evenings.




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