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> You think it's fairly typical basic upon no real knowledge or facts.

You don't know what knowledge or facts I have. So it's you who are making assertions based upon no real knowledge or facts.

> Better paid or better compensated overall?

Both.

> Often the benefits of being in a union are access to healthcare, retirement, vacation time, and other benefits that aren't reflected in hourly pay.

The union I was referring to did not offer any of these things. The company employing the union workers did. The union did not do anything that I saw to increase the level of those benefits that the company was providing.

Also, one of the primary rationales for unions in the first place was that they could do a better job of managing the skills of the work force than faceless corporations. The union I was referring to did not even have an apprenticeship program--much to the chagrin of many workers who had children they wanted to bring into their trade but got no support from their union for doing so. Many workers in fact protested, and it ended up being one of the issues that caused a change in the union leadership--but even that didn't make things any better.



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