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I think when you say that you pretty well reduce the vision of programmer culture in the US. How much cypherpunk influence is there in the wide swaths of programming culture that came out of Web 2.0? And how many cypherpunks have gone on to work for the NSA, DARPA, etc.? I'm not sure the landscape is so very different, and certainly one could tease out a cypherpunk influence in Russia that's much more obvious and profound than that in the United States.

There are many programmer cultures, and even cypherpunk culture is very complicated. There are some very different strains of cypherpunk thought, i.e. the divide between those whose primary mode of action as being exposing the scariest actor around and those whose effort is centered in hiding from the scariest actor around.



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