US interprets "privacy" as against government while allowing unlimited corporate privacy invasion - and in practice quite a large amount of spook privacy invasion through that. EU addresses corporate privacy invasion while having a compromise in law enforcement privacy.

Like when they used the Covid app location data to investigate a murder?[1]

[1]: https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/12/german-police-tracked-down-re...

& the US system routes abuses through the private sector: https://www.techpolicy.press/the-us-government-buys-data-for...

These things aren't a one-and-done matter of legislation or constitutions, they rely on constant pressure on every case.

(and I explicitly said the EU system does not guarantee privacy against law enforcement! Because total privacy for crime is very unpopular and politically unsustainable)

The subtitle of that article is:

German police are being investigated for using Covid-tracking data as part of a probe into a death.

The fact being that they (illegally) got access to data that was to be used for health purposes.

Have you never heard of snowden?

I do. I even have his book. What about him?

These are proposals, US services are even less trustworthy — since the patriot act at least.

Given the way the US is acting even if the Europeans didn't give a damn about encryption and just wanted to run on a stable, reliable service that isn't going to be suddenly abused for geopolitical purposes, they could do better than choosing services from the US.

Those laws weren't passed. The US Cloud Act and others were.

If you do not trust France and Germany because of proposed laws against privacy that did not pass there then who do you trust?

It's a good point, but I'm not going to trust a country where the executive branch used data that was supposed to be used for health purposes for criminal investigations (Germany).

The executive branch of the other one arrested someone for using encryption tools and "protecting [himself] against the exploitation of [his] personal data by GAFAM".