The Times article makes the argument that, while Apple didn't stop innovating because Samsung was copying them, Samsung stopped innovating because producing cheap Apple knockoffs was easier than producing unique products with unique features. I don't know if I believe it, but Allworth's claim that copying doesn't hurt the market is certainly not a slam dunk.
If you look at the evidence provided during the court case it's pretty obvious that's not true. Samsung created their own unique designs for everything, and only after benchmarking made changes to improve on them (because at the time samsung was much worse at design). If they 'copied', I would expect the earlier prototypes to look more like the iPhone, but the earlier prototypes look less like the iphone.
Also you must not know anything about the electronics industry if you find Samsung un-innovative. Aside from all innovative things that are plain to see in their devices, you also have more objective rankings like patent grants:
Because the parent I was responding to talks about how much Samsung is innovating. The important thing is that their process is geared towards doing their own work and innovating on their own.
How much the end result looks like another product has no relevance in my mind because results and similarities could've been achieved independently, and the most important elements of the look and feel were, eg F700.
There's never going to be a true counterfactual to whether Samsung would have innovated more or less if Apple hadn't come up with the iPhone. One thing that I will say: Samsung sure sell a lot of phone for a company that isn't innovative.
Yes, because every Samsung device in that market looks like a corresponding Apple product. Right. Now, where can I get the Apple product that was copied to produce the Galaxy Note or maybe just that 7" iPad I keep hearing about?
The Times article makes the argument that, while Apple didn't stop innovating because Samsung was copying them, Samsung stopped innovating because producing cheap Apple knockoffs was easier than producing unique products with unique features. I don't know if I believe it, but Allworth's claim that copying doesn't hurt the market is certainly not a slam dunk.