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As someone that nowadays lives mostly on Windows, and uses Linux since kernel 1.0.9 days, Unity DE was so much better experience than GNOME will ever be again.

After Unity got removed from Ubuntu as default DE, I eventually adopted XFCE.



I also enjoyed Unity, we're in a minority.

But I've found Ubuntu with Gnome 46 and a few tweaks to offer most of what I like about Unity (and macOS).


The "few tweaks" is exactly the problem.


On windows you have to apply "a few tweaks" just to get the start bar to stop showing advertising and work as it should. Windows users in the modern day have to do way more tweaks than Linux users do just to get a functional and unobtrusive operating system.


Which Linux users, from the myriad of Dritrowach rankings?

And no, many normies use Windows just as out of factory, as anyone that has had to fix the cousin's computer during a holidays visit is well aware.


Things got a bit deep into the discussion there for a minute so I'm lifting it out

> Your lengthy response is a good example of Linux forums, that eventually I got tired to visit, though.

It takes four times as much writing to refute bullshit as it does to write it.

My system works out of the box with basically no Tweaking other than clicking "install" on a bunch of things in the software installer.

Meanwhile Windows complaints that I have seen in the last few months from people in communities I am in:

"Is there any way to get windows to stop updating applications at random times? I have bad internet so if I'm trying to play games it lags me out in the middle of a match all the time"

"On Windows it seems like every app has a background task when I boot up that lets it do what it wants regardless of if I want it to"

"(misc comments about Windows 11 blocking Google Chrome)"

"I love Taskbar Tweaker but it errors on startup saying it can't load libraries and doesn't support windows 11, and won't work, and then I click ok and it works"

"Why is destiny 2 not using my GPU? I had to manually go through and select it to use my GPU lol"

"I want to play sims 2 but it doesn't work under windows 11 and I don't want to install a bunch of modding tools to get it to work, but VMWare/Virtualbox doesn't work because you can't do hardware acceleration without disabling a bunch of Windows bullshit" (The Sims 2 works out of the box on Wine and is rated Platinum on ProtonDB: https://www.protondb.com/app/3314070 )

"It is possible to keep the non-ai subscription to Office 365, but they hide it (link to article explaining how to tweak Windows)"

From what I've seen, Windows users tweak that shit just to get it to work normally, way more than I have ever had to touch my OS. Many of these things JustWork on Linux or are not problems.


Just try to count the amount of people trying to fix the goddamn context menu (right click) by going into the registry or god forbid the command line.

Windows is as constant of a PITA as Linux. But alas, these criticisms are never taken seriously.


> And no, many normies use Windows just as out of factory

Which means they do not "get a functional and unobtrusive operating system."

My experience of Windows users is that if they do not know how to tweak it, they complain about it.

> Which Linux users, from the myriad of Dritrowach rankings?

Any of them


A functional and unobtrusive OS, is one where people focus on doing work, instead of tweaking the OS to enable a beamer.

I would like to see someone using Kali Linux for a DAW, without issues, it is any of them, after all.


> I would like to see someone using Kali Linux for a DAW, without issues, it is any of them, after all.

Why would you use Kali Linux for a DAW? It's designed for penetration testing.

Most linux distributions ship pipewire which handles everything that Jack, ALSA, and Pulseaudio does, including many of the advanced low latency features.

Moreover, it's no longer required to recompile Linux to get the realtime features, that ships by default these days.

Hell, Pop_OS! has better support for my headphones than Windows ever had. Windows decided that 1% should be "excruciatingly loud and unlistenable", whereas in Linux it shows me the interfaces available and lets me select a different audio routing.


Confused over here, wasn't the answer "any of them"?!?


That wasn't my answer, pay attention to people's username ;)

You haven't responded to the rest of my post, and your response of "If I can't do it on Kali Linux then it isn't possible because the poster said any Linux distro" honestly leads me to believe you're more interested in nitpicking arguments to "win", rather than debating and understanding. But, I'm going to be generous with my time and energy here and answer nonetheless.

In response to "Which distro?", literally any of the general purpose ones that have an update of this year. Whatever distros come up when you type how to move from windows to linux into google.

A quick search shows that Linux Mint and Zorin are kind of favoured in articles. But hell, Pop_OS!, Fedora, Ubuntu, whatever. You're probably not going to turn Kali or Puppy Linux into a perfect DAW environment without a lot of tweaking, but a simple google shows a bunch of suggested distributions that would work fine, and a specialist search of "linux distributions for audio production" would get you a better selection. None of these distributions you generally have to tweak a whole bunch, at least any more than you would have to tweak windows 11 to get it working right without advertising in the desktop (lmao).

We are a long way away from having to deal with Pulseaudio, Pipewire was feature complete for general purpose use in 2021 before it even hit 1.0, and almost all distributions now ship it, that's how much of an improvement to the Linux audio stack it is. Linux audio is good enough now that big audio companies like e.g. Presonus, are now supporting Linux: https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/1921455826958...

And tools like VCV Rack work OOTB on Linux, I even got an Interesting copy of Renoise running in WINE out of the box.

If you want to see a considered opinion on Linux for audio production, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idcGxMFwvv8

There's a whole bunch more, too. A good bunch of these work on Linux, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HvTr_q2Yw (Although you'd be better off with Ardour, which is listed)


My mistake then, doesn't change the point of my remark, as the OP was Indeed asserting any distro.

Your lengthy response is a good example of Linux forums, that eventually I got tired to visit, though.

Remember my first distro used kernel 1.0.9, and I still use Linux distros at work, just not on my own laptops, so I am quite aware of the tweaking that never went away.


Your claims that "Linux is not a good DAW" does not match up with my experience of opening the Pop_OS! store this weekend, clicking "install" on Furnace and Ardour, and instantly having a way to make music, or of setting up my headphones on Linux, which worked instantly when I plugged them in and let me open "Settings > Sound" to click which chipset of the headphone was used (digital/analogue) to fix the fact that 1% of volume was far too much (doing this is impossible in Windows, because I tried it back when I ran windows -- you just have to be deafened, I assume).


> My mistake then, doesn't change the point of my remark, as the OP was Indeed asserting any distro.

It was supposed to be hyperbole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

I took it as obvious that I was excluding specialised distros.

> so I am quite aware of the tweaking that never went away.

What tweaking? People tweak WIndows too.

As the comment further up this thread pointed out, you need to tweak Windows to make it " functional and unobtrusive operating system."


It's not ideal, but it was all either in the Ubuntu panel options or in gnome-tweaks. I did that once and I don't have to think about it again.




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