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My neighbor has an Ioniq 5, styling-wise it's cooler than my Tesla. Reminds me of Corrado -- one of my favorite cars. But we have had night and day experiences with charging our EVs.

The supercharger network seems effortless & flawless -- almost too good. No payments, planning. The stations are clean, quiet & secluded. Just follow the Nav and charge.

The third-party network has been a disaster for my neighbor. He's had to back track many times, even on ~ 2 hr trips. The chargers are broken, causing him to double-back even more. On a recent trip the only working charger was next to a gas station and the fumes made his wife sick. He has 4+ apps to manage charging payments .

How on earth do people tolerate other EVs?



People tolerate other EVs in two ways:

1. You charge at home and typically drive relatively short distances, meaning you almost never have to interact with a commercial charger; or 2. If you need to rely on commercial chargers, you live in a part of the world where Tesla was never allowed to build a charging network monopoly (i.e anywhere outside the US), or in a part of the US where there's decent fast charging infrastructure

It sounds like your neighbour is unfortunate to require relatively frequent charging at commercial charging stations, in a part of the world where Tesla was allowed to build out a charging network monopoly.


He has home Level 2 (11kw) charging. But his EV is his primary road trip car.

It's not a "part of the world" it's Portland Metro area where millions live.


Is the Portland Metro area not a part of the world?


do you live in some communist country where businesses need to get approval ?


I live in some communist country where there are rules companies need to follow, one of those rules is "EVs must use the standard charging mechanism"


sounds communist


You can charge Ioniq 5's at most Tesla charging stations. I have a 2025 and it comes with the NACS port. It can charge anywhere. It's great.


his has the older port , I think CCS. 2025 was the first year with NACS . I heard Hyundai offers the adapters free / discounted but he hasn't picked one up yet.


also he doesn't like Elon so i think he's a bit stubborn about it


I love how the Ioniq 5 looks, but it’s too long. I wish they sold a Bolt-sized cousin in the US, that would be perfect.


a true Corrado clone, below 3500 lbs , would be sick


> How on earth do people tolerate other EVs?

I charge my Lightning at the same Tesla Superchargers I use with my Model 3. Works the same, plug in and walk away.




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