Agreed, with their disappointing stock performance from the beginning of the year on, stock options would definitely be one thing to really examine and determine if they would be worth anything at all.
Really? That's the direction you took? You realize what Tesla is doing is going to destroy the oil economy - dependency on oil for cars - and practically eliminate the need to pay for re-fueling your car once you own it? Or is it that you just don't believe it?
loceng your comment falls directly into the "Drinking the Kool Aid" bucket. If Tesla was such a sure thing then their stock price would reflect that. It doesn't because people who assess it still see a lot of risk to go along with a lot of upside. So it's fair to ask "If you're taking a reduced salary in exchange for stock options how likely is it that you'll be rewarded?" Right now the jury is out. It's important to remember that Tesla has no real competition to their core market right now. Mid to High end electric cars. Once they prove out the concept they'll face stiffer competition. I do hope they'll succeed and think Musk is one of the greatest visionaries and innovators of our time. That doesn't mean you don't get to ask hard questions around execution and competition.
As to the OP and original thread I think the question would be "Do a Google search on your four or five favorite startups/companies around "X working environment" Does Tesla feel disproportionately represented by negative comments or inline with the others relative to age and size. EVERY hard charging company has disgruntled folks. It's a question of proportionality I think.
> Really? That's the direction you took? You realize what Tesla is doing is going to destroy the oil economy - dependency on oil for cars - and practically eliminate the need to pay for re-fueling your car once you own it? Or is it that you just don't believe it?
Calm down:)
All I was responding to was a couple of comments about working for below average wages, bad work environment and the performance of Tesla's stock, which has been a bit disappointing over the past year.
I do think that Tesla will become profitable, but I don't' think for a second that it will "destroy the oil economy".
And consider for a second this statement:
> "practically eliminate the need to pay for re-fueling your car"
I don't' think Tesla has any such goal, as far as I know they still require you to refuel your car by plugging it into an electricity source. Electricity is literally the new fuel source.
How are you imagining that this is going away? Or are you using fuel in a narrow manner to refer to only oil based fuel?
Tesla are setting up Supercharger stations to refuel cars. From my understanding they are garage-port like things with solar panels on them, that recharge themselves. Solar cells can last a long time, and the technology will continue to improve. For climates with less sun there will likely need to be an alternate method of generating energy, though that will all be figured out. Read the following for details of I'm talking about, re: free to refuel your car - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-motors-launches-revoluti...
If that's your proof for Tesla ruining the oil economy then your standing on thin evidence, as bandy said. The only people getting unlimited free charging are the people that just bought the new model S, AND they have to get to one of the stations. Also personally I could care less if the oil business's crash after Tesla becomes even cheaper and widespread. People may think global warming may or may not exist, but as I ride a bike to work, and breath all the car fumes that pass by, and get light headed just from that, well I'm not too worried about not having more gas burning cars around.
So, you're saying that people who have sufficient disposable income to purchase a very expensive sports car that they can only "refuel" near their home needn't worry about how much it's going to cost them to do so?
Of course one should determining what one thinks the stock options will be worth in the future, but the current stock performance has little bearing on that.
