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You've answered a different question than the one I asked. I think the US will continue to pay its debts, under this president and the one who replaces him in three years.




The point is that it doesn't matter, the US is toxic for the next foreseeable twenty years, and for Europe as a whole, a threat and an enemy. We'd be stupid to keep funding your economy, no matter how much money it makes back. Enemies are to be taken down.

>under this president and the one who replaces him in three years.

The levels of optimism in this sentence are off the charts. The US's political systems are so weak, fragile and compromised that you don't even know if you're going to hold proper midterms or if you're going to get a civil war, the current president is threatening the FED, but sure, debts are going to be paid when it's ran by the dude that managed to bankrupt casinos.


The US will pay its debts in USD and the German government will pay its debts in Euros. If you think the euros to dollar exchange rate will be better in the future, it can easily dwarf the difference in interest rate between the bonds.

How does that practically work out in selecting bond investments though? Betting on receiving euro coupon payments would look like buying BNDX over BND. But in the last year, while the Euro appreciated ~12% over the Dollar, $BND is up ~3% while BNDX is down ~1%.

International Bond ETFs are normally dollar-hedged. There are some unhedged ones that are in the local currencies and better at tracking foreign exchange rates. e.g. BWX is an unhedged international treasury fund.

This president has publicly mulled not paying its debts.

It's time to stop magical, wishful thinking about how you want the world to be, and deal with the world as it is.


The president can mull whatever he wants; he doesn't have the authority to not pay.

He can mull all he wants and half the time, that mulling turns into reality.

In practice, he has the authority to do anything he wants. Who is going to stop him? You? His pets in Congress? JPow's private hit squad? Clarence Thomas?

The first rule of neo-America is that you're playing the Chairman's Game[1], and there are no more rules. Its counterparties should bargain with it accordingly.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_(card_game) [2]

[2] The Chairman's Game is a game invented in a university. Some say it was invented at Stanford, while others say it was invented at MIT. It was inspired by a formerly prominent, but now somewhat disgraced Chinese politician that was famous for coming up with a lot of interesting new rules for his subjects to follow, and enforcing those rules very harshly, without necessarily informing those subjects what those rules were. It's a little bit like Uno, a little bit like Crazy Eights, and the only thing that I can tell you about it is that there are times, when playing this game, when it is not a good idea to speak.


> Who is going to stop him? You? His pets in Congress? JPow's private hit squad? Clarence Thomas?

Yes, ultimately Clarence Thomas and his eight friends, or Congress.


The same Congress that failed to convict him, twice, and the same Clarence Thomas that has ruled him to be above the law?

If you're waiting for Republicans to save you from his madness, you'll be waiting for a long time.


What a ridiculous statement given everything we've seen in the last year. The president doesn't have the authority to withhold funding to the states, or to deploy the national guard (absent an emergency), or to use the Justice Department as his personal law firm, and yet... All he needs to do is have the appropriate person fail to do their job and nothing gets paid.

You can't be serious, Trump doesn't care. He can do whatever he wants, drag it through the courts for a long time. If he loses try another method

The risk for credit default is very close to zero, but the risk for renegotiated contract terms is not zero. That's what the whole Mar-a-Lago Accords was about. It is a strategy that describes in detail how that would be executed. The likeliness for which is up for debate, of course, but it's certainly not a risk free asset.

Add to that the rampant debt increase over many decades and zero political will to rectify the situation, which is why the rate of return is so much higher than in more politically stable countries such as for example Switzerland, Germany or Sweden.


1. Trump has constantly stated how he believes the US has spent money and lives doing things for the rest of the world. He just did it with Canada this week saying "Canada exists because of the US'.

2. The majority of his followers have some level of cult like adoration for him and therefore he isn't worried about losing support for radical actions.

3. Republican voters have been told to not trust the experts, news, or the opposing political party which eliminates all outside sources of information. This allows them to make claims about our debt or why we shouldn't pay it and many of these voters won't get opposing views.

4. Trump wants a massive increase in spending for the military and has cut taxes. While at the same time Republicans ran on the high debt. Not paying it by claiming it's invalid solves that.




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