Old Macs can certainly be downgraded. iOS doesn’t allow it though and they pulle...

reconnecting · 2026-01-28T16:01:07 1769616067

I have nothing against old Macs and MacOS, but I certainly won't be buying anything since the Apple Silicon switch, because now only Apple controls which OS you can run.

deaux · 2026-01-28T16:02:53 1769616173

>If you buy a machine that isn't even released yet

Uhh, I guess.

AFAIK iOS has been very locked down wrt rolling back upgrades since forever and isn't super relevant to this thread. Happy to be corrected.

klausa · 2026-01-28T16:29:59 1769617799

M5 MacBook Pros have been shipping for over three months now.

The M5 Pro/Max variants aren't; but an M5 Mac is a thing you could have bought for a good while now.

stefanfisk · 2026-01-29T04:58:40 1769662720

Here’s the correction.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/14-inch-m5

deaux · 2026-02-03T04:21:14 1770092474

The requested correction was on the "iOS has been locked down on downgrading since forever" part and another reply had already provided one for M5 being sold (though only pros seemingly) :)