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Don't put words in my mouth, don't say silly things.

I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border.

You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport.

And yeah, even if you're a white man with a US passport, you still might end up shot by ICE if you're in Minneapolis (doesn't mean you're less likely to be targeted).

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> I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border.

The way things are currently operating, the border is probably the place you have to worry the least as it's staffed by CBP folks which have probably had training: it's the rest of the country with ICE randos running around that seem to be the worrisome areas. Just ask the South Koreans:

* https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/sep/12/s...

> You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport […]

Are we talking at the border or the rest of the country? At the border with CBP a US passport would probably be best. With the rest of the country, with ICE, white skin and a British (or any) passports would probably be 'best'.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_while_black


Good observation, I meant at the border. Your passport won't matter that much if you get stopped by a cop.

But also, look carefully at the comparisons I offered. I didn't include all the combinations, because I only was including comparisons that were obviously true without any room for ambiguity or nitpicking.

As you noted, a black citizen might be treated better at the border and worse during a traffic stop compared to a white foreigner.


hell of a typo in that last sentence, and I can't edit.

I meant to say "doesn't mean you're not less likely to be targeted".


>You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport.

Tell me you're not an American without telling me you're not an American.

I hate to say it, but to many (racist) Americans, brown skin < anything else ... and ICE has a disproportionate number of those people, because they deliberately hire them.


1. A few messages upthread, I note that I'm an American, and I'm from the South. Quite familiar with how racist folks can be.

2. Reread what I wrote, it's not contradicted by what you said.


There is no evidence for any of this.



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