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Crazy. I can't remember an incident like this ever happened before and it's still not fixed? .de is probably the most important unrestricted domain after .com from an economical perspective. Millions of businesses are "down".


I remember when .com went down, in July 1997.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/we...


> For instance, the name "www.nytimes.com" corresponds to nine different computers that answer requests for The New York Times on the Web, one of which is 199.181.172.242

  $ dig -x 199.181.172.242 +short
  www2.nytimes.com.
Neat.


DENIC apparently resolved all .de domains to NXDOMAIN in 2010: https://www.theregister.com/2010/05/12/germany_top_level_dom...


It's Germany, pessimistic time estimation + 1/3 and you are in a realistic time frame for the issue being resolved.


It's night. Somebody has to fill a form to approve night work first.


And then fax the form to the correct authority, so that the request is Official(tm).


Well at least that doesn't require functioning DNS. This time around, it in fact could not have been an email :)


In fact it could, you just would address the IP directly instead of a hostname.


I know that people are joking, but of course we also have (extra paid) on call shifts.


And send it by post for approval, which will take 5-30 business days.


Fax, actually! Will still take 5–30 business days for approval, for some reasons


Oh come on, that’s not true. You could also fax it. That might come with an additional processing fee though.


Dont be ridiculous, thats what FAX is for.


I many days would an email take?


To a .de domain?


Of course


Luckily it's not Sunday. Everyone would be out in the country hiking.


Or reading the latest prints about tax filings and how to conduct a compliance audit with pen and paper.


Or sweeping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehrwoche


That's a sweeping generalization.


Or in Berghain


In addition: it's Germany, pessimistic cost estimation + 2000%, and you are in a realistic budget for the issue being resolved.


:D... before tax!


There's a good index of major DNSSEC outages here, https://ianix.com/pub/dnssec-outages.html


Must have been mid 2000s. Root dns servers were down. Super hard to diagnose the issues it causes on your side because it "never happens".


Germany isn't as big as you think.


Yeah it's only the third largest economy in the world


I just checked and the can of Paulaner in the fridge is not affected by the outage so far, thus my trust into German economy remains unshaken.


> Yeah it's only the third largest economy in the world

You can both be the 3rd biggest economy in the world and still only be 1/10th of US+China GDPs combined.

And only three companies in the Top 100 for Germany:

https://companiesmarketcap.com/

Germany is the kingdom of the "mittelstand": many, many, many SMEs.

Both GP and you are right: it's the 3rd largest economy in the world and yet it's simply not that big.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelstand

In other words: I expect this German DNS SNAFU to have 0.000000001% impact on the world's GDP this year.


How is 1/10th the size of number 1 and 2 COMBINED small? In what world is that a small number? Especially as those two are 1.8 billion people vs 0.08 billion for Germany


This comparison threw me for such a loop. What an odd way to present a point.


> In other words: I expect this German DNS SNAFU to have 0.000000001% impact on the world's GDP this year.

126 trillion USD * 0.00000000001 = 1260USD

I'm pretty sure the impact was higher than that ;)


what's SME?


Small/Medium enterprises


Well it was already very late in the day (21-22?) so the impact was not big I would say




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