> the point is to save people / well-being, not reduce it
Oh, you haven't met _that_ part of the climate people. A surprising number of them do want to reduce the number of people and they see "degrowth" as the solution.
I can see how it appears that way but ultimately that's nobody's goal of course. Might be worth actually talking to someone who you feel is in that group and realizing that they have the same morals and end goals as you and me, just seeing a different path to get there
Many would actually say we should reduce the well-being, if you want to take it literally, but specifically of the richest 10% of people or so, such that everyone can be at an equal lifestyle that earth can sustain, since it's not fair if 90% needs to live far under that common standard so that the rich can be rich. That could be something to agree or disagree with (most of us here are in that top 10%; I certainly am), but I expect you'd not find 99% of "them" having an unreasonable stance when you hear them out
Oh, you haven't met _that_ part of the climate people. A surprising number of them do want to reduce the number of people and they see "degrowth" as the solution.