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No, you're right. No one at Apple is solving world hunger. And FWIW, these are engineers who, like I had, started at Apple in the 90's. There were of course no glass icons, etc., then. Few of us can steer the ship any longer.

Back when I began though (1995) the engineers more or less were driving—not the designers, management. (Were there even designers in the 90's at Apple?)

Of course history will show how well that worked for Apple. When Jobs came back and the company became successful (financially) again, it started sucking more and more for engineering. The lunatics were no longer allowed to run the asylum.

I suppose I could have left then, but I was also looking at retiring in a decade or so and was still an "Apple fan" from my love of the Mac from the late 80's. There is no way I was going to, for example, apply to work at Microsoft.



Appreciate your response - that was definitely a meaningful time for the company. I'm jealous. You can be proud of your contributions. I still remember my music teacher using an old Mac with the black/white UI for many years because it was so damn robust and performant.

My biggest problem with today's Apple is that every shithole dictator can hack the iPhone and there are zero ways to defend against it. First Facebook and Google stole and uploaded our full phone contact lists, then they kept the camera recording when the phone screen was turned off, and nowadays there is a christian-fundamentalist government controlling all of that.

As a European all this data is gathered from us and our families just so Epstein's colleagues in five eyes intelligence can use it to sabotage European interests.




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