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>So, none of them? Again, never used PL/I, so I can't roll on that one, but I know guys who have been doing FORTRAN since the seventies and that culture and outlook bears little resemblance to the C community. Java's community is not nearly as buttoned-up and business-centric as COBOL's was (even the oh-so-wise "scripting people" aside); COBOL had literally-literally no other significant use case. And PHP, for all its many warts, is viewed as a language you use to ship products, novice or no. Actual products that people use, no less. The first time I can think of BASIC being readily usable for that was in the nineties.

Do I have to repeat that it's not about them being the SAME, but merely an equivalent for the modern era?

The PHP analogy here is the novice targeted/available everywhere/easily run part.

The Java analogy is the enterprisey, business, all serious part.

The C analogy is the made to run fast but too low level and too concerned with control/low level speed over proper abstraction stuff.

Etc etc.



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