(Not a Rails developer, just an outside observer)

Isn't Rails highly opinionated with a focus on being batteries-included? I'm not defending the choice to include Zoom but a batteries-included (for better or for worse) distro is exactly what I would expect from the creator of Rails.

I guess I love highly opinionated stuff only if I agree with those opinions.

A lot of the "pre-install bloat" are just web apps, including Zoom. Zoom is just an 8 line file so it appears in the menu and to point it to a 22 line bash script to launch the app.zoom.us website at the right address.

Easy to remove. Can even open your favourite AI assistant and ask it to remove it, since it comes with an Omarchy skill and knows how to change everything.

> Easy to remove

See this is where its going too far IMO.

When you setup rails, you get far fewer "batteries" by default.

Its batteries included, but opt-in to be included.

That is totally different from installing an OS and having bloatware already included.

It'll get there with enough community support hopefully, but the current state is very rough(much like early rails)

I don't find it to be too bloated, and the things I don't like I simply uninstall.

So far its the best Linux Desktop experience I've had, and I hardly have to configure anything out of the box, most of it just works.

That’s awesome! Everyone has different tastes. Personally I love GNOME because it’s extremely productive and works out of the box.

Yeah, GNOME was my previous preference, but I don't see myself going back now

Learning the hotkeys in Omarchy is a bit of a process, but there is a hotkey to show the hotkeys lol (super + K) - and once you get used to them, its super productive, at least to me.

i don't understand why DHH is shipping so much bloat in omarchy. The better solution would be to ask if user wants to install bloatware during installation.

DHH created a distro for what he personally needs for work, and his company uses Zoom.

It's that simple.

Thats pretty good, then he should have made a toolkit for building and rolling your own badass distro and not a "opinionated" "omakase" system that claims to solve all of deskop linux while personally mocking a lot of people that actually have made real contributions as "clowns".

His tone is horrible. Because he implies untrue things while being 100% certain. He will paint entire communities as against omarchy when it’s just a couple left wing members with a stupid take. It doesn’t help the distribution is just … not that good.

Yeah, he also doesn't seem to separate those of us that hate omarchy because its a stupid distro from those of us that hate omarchy because of the authors annoying political loudness. It's a convenient tool though, label all the detractors as hating him for political reasons when the distro is objectively kinda pointless.

There are far better ways to handle setting up a workstation for one's needs than spinning a new distro.

Perfect example of a usecase for nixOS. Single file and its got everything DHH wants.

Have you… used any other Linux distributions at all? For longer than a month? Respectfully. The thing DHH killed was demoing Omarchy most stuff is in other distros out of the box. And like installing in a couple minutes is table stakes.

Have you used any of the popular distros? They all ship with loads of bloatware by default

Like what???? I don’t revolt at anything pre-installed on fedora.

And arch Linux specifically ships with nothing!

6GB is 3x larger than most other distros. It is kind of mental.