Agreed, pages on pages of fruitless discussion on "AGI". Shut up damn it, let's see something useful, let's have that pelican!

Damn I hate this benchmark. SVG authoring from head without visual reference is so wrongly posed.

Hah, this is a new one: first time there's been a complaint about the pelican before I've even posted one!

(I don't have access yet.)

Shower thought: But how often per week do you run the pelican these days? And do you have it automated at this point or would the automation take out the meaning of the benchmark?

My automation is pretty simple. I use my https://llm.datasette.io tool where I have a template saved:

  llm "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" --save pelican

When a model comes out I first make sure LLM can talk to it - usually by updating the relevant plugin, but if it's on OpenRouter I can use it directly with https://github.com/simonw/llm-openrouter - sometimes I use this mechanism instead, for OpenAI-compliant API models: https://llm.datasette.io/en/stable/other-models.html#configu...

Then I run something like this:

  llm -m gpt-6-astra -m pelican

Then I grab the most recent log export as markdown:

  llm logs -cu | pbcopy

-c means most recent conversation, -u includes token usage

I paste that into https://gist.github.com and then paste the resulting Gist URL into the URL tab on https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer

If the model supports multiple reasoning levels I run it once per level and put those in the same file.

I really should automate this a bit more.

Well you’re just no fun are you?!

Very well said. It kinda describes how unrealistic these expectations are.

Vibe coders want a model that makes them rich, without having any actual specific idea. They write a very ambiguous prompt and expect to be amazed by the result.

Very very unrealistic and wasteful.

The complaining about the pelicans is so strange to me. It’s just a fun heuristic. If something is claimed to be AGI, I’d expect it to be able to make svgs.

When AGI comes it will come as a pelican and gobble up all these troublesome little fishies who gripe and whine and moan about pelicans.

Good grief. You’re no fun either. This whole thread is lots of no fun. Pelicans are fun.