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The current state of alignment is that we don't know how to make it only as bad as Pol Pot was made by his parents, teachers, genetics, circumstances, etc.

This remains true regardless of if it is or isn't kept away from the public.

"Helpful, harness, and honest": when used by a bastard, even just helpful and harmless are in direct conflict with each other. you may hate the government, but what about every radical group of extremists that wants to take over your government? Are none of them worse?

None of this denies the problems with governments (if or not they take this tech for themselves and refuse it for others), just that it's a lack of imagination to say:

> All the worst outcomes involve taking this technology away from the public



I agree an argument can be made that not all the worst outcomes include restricting public access, but focusing on niche extremist groups (who might also get access to it through government programs by some of them being government employeed) is not a good argument to protect the public.

Governments having unbalanced power can more easily lead to authoritarianism, and thus risk to the public.


At this point, I worry a lot more of billionaires Musk, Altman, Thiel etc then of goverments in general. Thrir project is to get all power and if they succeed, it will be way worst then what we have seen so far.


There's plenty of things to worry about, and plenty of people to do the worrying.


False dichotomy.


> what about every radical group of extremists that wants to take over your government?

Radical groups of extremists created by that very government, you mean?


Not only but also.


Honestly? I'd rather al Qaeda have access to something like Fable, than the US government. The US government has capacity to do immensely more damage.


Eh.

If I was rank ordering, I's put:

  worst [AM, {very large gap …}, al Qaeda, …, USG today, …, China, …, USG under Obama, {very large gap …}, The Culture] best.


As an Idiran sympathiser, I disagree with your ranking. The Culture are now pets of the Minds.


The pets seem to be well cared for, and given a nicely enriched life with plenty of metophorical chew toys and laser pointer dots to chase.




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