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> if you wanted to moralize about enslaving your computer

That is precisely the context of the debate. You seem to find it absurd, as do I, but the reason we're talking about whether LLMs are conscious in this thread has nothing to do with whether they are useful. It's because important people, such as Dario Amodei, are engaging in exactly the kind of moralising over "AI welfare" that you're scoffing at.

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Dario and friends are just marketing. Getting the pope to say your chatbot is a real boy would be the ultimate flex. And it’s clearly working judging by all the attention it gets them.



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