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Well, just to address the first point there is undeniably an "exodus" from Visual Studio. Just look at all the code shipped to run in browsers, or iOS, or Android, or on node or rails. A decade and a half ago a far (far!) greater fraction of that was spend in a Microsoft IDE.

But that's really not the point. The upstream discussion was much narrower, and focused specifically on C/C++ support, which frankly sucks in the windows world compared to the renaissance we're seeing in Unix with our dueling multi-architecture full-support C++11 implementations.

I'm not nearly expert enough to comment on how good or innovative the .NET support in VS is, but I'm perfectly willing to believe it's great.



Undeniably? Not quite.

Your reasoning is really faulty because you aren't accounting for overall growth in the industry. If the world Irish population increases by 20% does this mean that the Asian population shrunk? Of course not.

Consider that Tablet and Smartphone platforms are in addition to flat PC sales. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/01/tablets-cro...

http://www.wcu.edu/ceap/houghton/edelcompeduc/ch1/handhelds/...

Same goes for the world wide web in general. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-web-sites-are-are-th...

You can't say logically that because there are more rails sites there are less Microsoft ones.

C# is pretty popular here: http://langpop.corger.nl/

here as well:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index....

And that doesn't count non-C# .net ecosystem languages.

Could there be an exodus? Sure, but your reasoning is just wrong here.


Did you miss the bit where I said the "exodus" (I even used scare quotes!) wasn't the point?


I think so. Haha. Sarcasm detector is on the fritz.


Just look at all the code shipped to run in browsers...

I use Visual Studio ship code to run in browsers every day.


And HN is hardly representative of the software industry at large.


Almost all video games are produced in Visual Studio, more or less. Even the one for Sony/Wii (plugins/extensions in Visual Studio, etc, although using different compilers).

That accounts for a lot of software out there.

And no, I don't like Visual Studio, but it's the best tool out there for the majority of the people I work with.




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