[note: no personal hostility intended - I'm responding to the idea of "anti-systemd" in the abstract]
It's this kind of us-vs-the, faction-oriented attitude that concerns some of us. Nobody[1] is saying systemd should be expunged from the repositories or removed as an option.
The concern is that a newcomer (i.e. potentially buggy, but could prove itself over time) to the area of "init software" is demanding to be the only software allowed for that particular problem. Even more concerning is how that same newcomer as monopolistic tendencies, and has started tying/bundling together several neighboring software niches, demanding that the currently used and working solutions in those areas be abandoned as well, because of some made up requirement.
If you or anybody else wants to run systemd, you should. In reading these discussion on it, it even sounds like a great choice for some situations (the people setting up "tens of thousands" of mostly-identical systems seem to like it a lot). Some distros make it the default? Why not, variety is one of the great things about having multiple distros to choose from.
Insistence that OpenRC and such must make way for systemd is enough provoke a rather strong reaction. The deliberate incompatibilities to force adoption, on the other hand, are borderline fighting words.
This pattern - trying to suppress competing ideas while claiming the opposition is being unreasonable for suggesting some sort of compromise - is something I've had to fight in politics for a long time. It's expected any time atheism or gay marriage is brought up.
I never thought I would see that kind of "argument" used seriously[2] over UNIX...
1: "nobody", modulo the rare fanatic/ass that you find in any sufficiently large group of people. Even the linked article above - despite the presence of strong opinions - is more concerned with technical issues and how to solve the "init system problem" in general.
2: we have had our Holy Wars, but traditionally only leads to strange stuff like "evil-mode"
[note: no personal hostility intended - I'm responding to the idea of "anti-systemd" in the abstract]
It's this kind of us-vs-the, faction-oriented attitude that concerns some of us. Nobody[1] is saying systemd should be expunged from the repositories or removed as an option.
The concern is that a newcomer (i.e. potentially buggy, but could prove itself over time) to the area of "init software" is demanding to be the only software allowed for that particular problem. Even more concerning is how that same newcomer as monopolistic tendencies, and has started tying/bundling together several neighboring software niches, demanding that the currently used and working solutions in those areas be abandoned as well, because of some made up requirement.
If you or anybody else wants to run systemd, you should. In reading these discussion on it, it even sounds like a great choice for some situations (the people setting up "tens of thousands" of mostly-identical systems seem to like it a lot). Some distros make it the default? Why not, variety is one of the great things about having multiple distros to choose from.
Insistence that OpenRC and such must make way for systemd is enough provoke a rather strong reaction. The deliberate incompatibilities to force adoption, on the other hand, are borderline fighting words.
This pattern - trying to suppress competing ideas while claiming the opposition is being unreasonable for suggesting some sort of compromise - is something I've had to fight in politics for a long time. It's expected any time atheism or gay marriage is brought up.
I never thought I would see that kind of "argument" used seriously[2] over UNIX...
1: "nobody", modulo the rare fanatic/ass that you find in any sufficiently large group of people. Even the linked article above - despite the presence of strong opinions - is more concerned with technical issues and how to solve the "init system problem" in general.
2: we have had our Holy Wars, but traditionally only leads to strange stuff like "evil-mode"