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The rest of your life? Some rich dude in a very public position got fired for doing stupid things in public. Boo-hoo. How very, very tragic.

He will manage, no doubt. He will not die poor. Maybe not a billionaire, but no one’s entitled to that. What’s with all the unending sympathy for rich people in public positions with lots of power making stupid mistakes and having to face the consequences for those?

The supermarket cashier being fired for picking up change from the floor, now that’s tragic. This? Doesn’t matter. Do you really believe his life is in any way ruined? Maybe because he won’t be able to become a billionaire in the future because of choices he made?

I have exactly zero sympathy for rich people in public positions of power being scrutinised. That’s the price you pay.

Really, I want someone to explain to me why it’s somehow not ok to critically examine things who are working in public do in public. I really don’t understand the argument for that.

Should some lowly employee be fired for what they do in their own time public? No, of course not, it’s none of the employers fucking business. Should leadership in public positions (representing the company to the outside) be fired for what they do in public? Yes, of course, how could you ever think otherwise?



> He will manage, no doubt. He will not die poor. Maybe not a billionaire, but no one’s entitled to that. What’s with all the unending sympathy for rich people in public positions with lots of power making stupid mistakes and having to face the consequences for those?

Because he was judged in the court of public opinion. You may point and say "What this man did was obviously wrong! He deserves everything he gets!" And then someday, maybe you make one small, innocuous mistake. One off-the-cuff comment taken out of context. And the internet lynch mob will come for you.

(Please understand that I'm not saying what he did was said out of context or could be misinterpreted. It was pretty obviously a dumb thing to do. People have been "executed" in the court of public opinion for infinitesimally smaller gaffes, and it is this we must work to stop.)


Freedom of speech is important. I do not want to drag everyone in front of a judge just because of what they said. Moghadam should no doubt be legally allowed to say what he said.

However, whether or not someone is fired is not a decision a court has to make. And when someone who is in the public pisses parts of the public off the company is perfectly justified in firing that person. Isn’t that just common sense? They also can not fire the person, of course, and deal with the consequences of their actions. I’m really not sure why companies should ignore the public. I mean, they can, if they want to, but there is no good reason to ignore them just because.

Also, hey, if you are in such a public position of power your error margin will always be extremely low. No one said it’s an easy job. That’s just how it is. If you don’t like it that way do something less public and scrutinised.


The supermarket cashier being fired for picking up change from the floor, now that’s tragic. This? Doesn’t matter.

The starving unemployed father who just lost his job is sad. This? At least the cashier is not going to starve to death with her family.


How do you know he's rich?


You've missed my point.


No, I did not. This ain’t gonna screw up anyone’s life. Oh, it might cost him a few millions, sure (as doing dumb things in public tends to if you are working in a public position), but he will never ever live in poverty.




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