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Direct link to the Keynote youtube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys


Oddly, their live streaming does not work without Adobe Flash. It absolutely refuses to load anything in Chromium, even though it supports every single HTML5 format that YouTube offers. I would have expected better from Google in 2014.


HTML5 doesn't support live streaming [1]. You need either Flash or HLS support (i.e. iOS/Safari).

Disclaimer: I work in the video space.

[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21921790/best-approach-to...


HTML5 doesn't support live streaming

That's a very bad way of stating it. It's perfectly possible, and "supported" even though there is no "use this thing" solution for it. The problem is that you can't rely on a full solution being usable by all browsers you want to target.


Why hasn't HLS caught on more broadly? From what I know it's not licensed / patented by apple. Many Flash players implement it, and overall its a great way of delivering video over HTTP.


Its encumbered by being an Apple standard (NIH). Adobe is pushing HDS, and Google is pushing an open standard called MPEG-DASH.

They all do the same thing fundamentally; the only differences are slight technical details and who is in control of the standard.


It appears to have interoperability issues. The Apple livestreams certainly never seem to play reliably in non-Apple HLS clients.


Live streaming is possible with WebRTC, as sites like Appear.in demonstrate. It might not literally be "HTML5" but it isn't Flash.


We need http-streaming in html5 VLC supports it, why not the browsers?


Aereo (RIP) streamed live television over HTML5.


Let's not write them off yet. As I've posted in the other HN thread about them, they just need to pivot.


You can do WebM live streaming.


I’m watching it in Safari without Flash installed.


I'm guessing the problem is that it's encoded in H264, which isn't available in Chromium due to patents.


Chromium can definitely play H.264 with no problem. All three videos on this page[0] play perfectly, as do all other HTML5 YouTube videos.[1]

[0]http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/graphics/videoformatsuppor... [1]https://www.youtube.com/html5 - This shows 6/6


I'm a bit shocked that this works even on Debian. I don't understand how it is possible without Debian violating the patents.


Chromium uses ffmpeg to decode h264. In fact, they even include ffmepg in the chromium source tarball.




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