A lot of the components mentioned are actually optional and you can build systemd without them or disable them at runtime. I'm guessing this idea that this idea that systemd is targeted for the desktop is from the logind kerfuffle with GNOME and friends but it's actually an optional component. If anything though systemd is more targeted towards server market.
This. SystemD means you can boot the system without needing a shell installed at all which is what Debian has been proposing moving towards for a very minimal server image.
Fine. There speaks nothing against Debian Desktop for servers by admins who prefer systemd. I am current happy Debian user myself, and I would use such a system for my desktop.
However regarding servers I agree with the Unix veterans that Unix(-like) systems should be faithful to the KISS philosophy which made Unix so great. The IT world has become very complex, and we should not make it more complex than necessary. Debian and its derived distris took over the server world, and (AFAIK) it accomplished that with SystemV not with systemd. So SystemV is not that bad.
> However regarding servers I agree with the Unix veterans that Unix(-like) systems should be faithful to the KISS philosophy which made Unix so great.
Unit files are surprisingly powerful and simple and follow KISS quite well (they're easier to maintain). systemd is also not quite as monolithic as some are wont to believe.
> Debian and its derived distris took over the server world, and (AFAIK) it accomplished that with SystemV not with systemd. So SystemV is not that bad.
This just seems disingenuous. It's almost like arguing we didn't need nginx because the web server market was won by Apache, not nginx.
systemd has its warts, I won't deny that, but it seems that most of those opposed to it are opposed strictly on the merit that it's new and different.
In the total sum, systemd and it's declarative unit files, is more KISS than all the services coming with their own shell scripts, their own log handling, their own daemonization etc.
