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While I love supertall buildings, I don’t think height or size necessarily equates with notoriety, especially in a place like London.


Paris seems to do pretty OK on all of density, vibrancy, and aesthetics, while segregating all their somewhat-tall buildings to La Defense. I'm skeptical that moving all those into the city proper, let alone aiming for top-X-buildings slots, would improve the city in any way.


I enjoyed this story a lot—it felt like the perfect dose of futurism to start my day. I noticed some similarities with both the overall tone and the first chapter specifically of Fall; or, Dodge in Hell by Neal Stephenson, but I have to admit that for me personally that was a positive thing.

edit: formatting


Oh wow! I'll make sure to check them out. Thanks a lot for reading :)


> […] it's not necessary to drop a service as long as you get to control how it works for you

I agree with this, and this is why I still have a FB account (for now).

> The data mining and shadow profiling are the cost you pay for a free service

I believe the OP was saying that “the way FB mines your data is the cost they charge for their service”, not necessarily that this has always been the cost of every free service, or that this is a cost that everyone should be willing to pay.

It’s more like “if you manage the notifications so it’s only a part of your life when you want it to be, and you understand and are okay with the data mining and shadow profiling they do to support their service, then there’s not much to be gained from deleting your FB account.” At least that’s how I feel (again, for now).


Thank you for trying to clarify my point, you are very spot on.

I think Facebook as a service SHOULD have access to how you use the platform AS you use it and if you can stop it from tracking your behavior outside their ecosystem and gamifying your interaction with it, I do believe that there's not that much to gain from deleting your account.

There's an argument to be made for their unethical addiction provoking implementations, but until another platform comes up with a working business model and a lack of psychological tricks, one would be arguing against the windmills.


> That being said there are better ways of phrasing it than "this isn't my job". Saying something along the lines of "if I do that I won't have time to finish X by next Tuesday as I promised. It might be worth checking with Dave and his team if they have someone who can work on it. Otherwise I'll be happy to do it, as long as you're OK with pushing X back a week".

Your whole comment was spot-on, but this part in particular resonated with me.

Over my relatively short career, there have been waves of being overloaded and then feeling like I had a handle on things. Whenever it’s been the latter, I can usually trace it back to being consistent with giving folks the simple cause and effect of what they’re asking of me. It helps that I happen to enjoy basically all the work (even remotely) relevant to my role, so when someone asks me for something (for perhaps the 10th time that day), I kindly say that I’d be more than happy to do that “..but this is what that will mean for the first 9 things you asked me for today..”.

I’ve found this to be an organic, effective way of filtering out priorities from background noise without creating that alienation between you and your boss/coworkers that was mentioned further up.


> "Otherwise I'll be happy to do it, as long as you're OK with pushing X back a week"

While I agree with your sentiment, this only works in a workplace where management is willing to adjust deadlines and expectations in these situations. I've seen and experienced (bad) managers with a mindset of "Just get it done" or worse. It's usually a great sign that it's time to move on.


This was an awesome video; I had no idea this type of thing ever existed. Thanks for sharing!


I can attest to the fact that this is one of the coolest places in SF if you’re into futurism—which I think is saying a lot. It’s the first place I take guests from out of town.


I can attest to two things -- the Interval is a great spot to grab a good drink (and the talks they put on are great, and attract a great crowd)... and I lost a ton of respect for the Long Now Foundation when they pivoted from the future of humanity to conspicuous consumption three feet above sea level.


A little history here is perhaps useful.

A number of years back, the Long Now moved their offices to the current space at Fort Mason. Part of the reason they picked the spot was that the ground floor could be a small museum, showcasing the Long Now's work the public, including the many tourists passing by.

However, although many passed by, not many actually came in. After some years, they decided to give people another reason to come in, one that has worked for centuries: caffeine and alcohol. So, via their "brickstarter" campaign, [1] they raised money to redo the historic space. (FYI, I'm a donor.)

It worked out wonderfully. I was in there the other night and every chair was full. And not just of random drinkers, but many people clearly interested in what was going on. Around the orrery [2] was a group of people animatedly discussing its purpose. People were looking at the exhibits. In front of one of the patrons at the bar was a fat Roger Penrose book.

And I should add that this wasn't a "pivot". All of the Long Now's projects still go on as before. And having their own venue has allowed them to expand their lecture series from once a month to almost weekly.

I was skeptical when the idea initially came up, but as a donor, occasional volunteer, and long-time fan, I think it has worked out wonderfully. Their mission, after all, is to get people to think about he long term, and the first step of that is getting their attention. Thousands of people per year now visit that wouldn't have. To me that's a win.

[1] http://blog.longnow.org/02014/09/22/the-interval-brickstarte...

[2] http://longnow.org/clock/orrery/


Imagine that the future is now and they’re looking back on our time. What a valuable and warming touch to the whole thing.

It makes sense, too. Out of all the things Long Now has done, an inspiring space for great minds to meet definitely seems fitting. A priority, even.


The ideal spot for a bar is near people, regardless of whether that location will be underwater in a century. It would be a lot more expensive and irresponsible to move every one of the visitors than to move the bar uphill every decade or two.


Society will need to overcome endemic unemployment and autonomous weapons before San Francisco will have to worry about sea level rise.


Overcome autonomous weapons?


It's not as crazy as it sounds. Consider this, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqHrTtvFFIs

They still might not be a real threat, though. Perhaps you and Abekkus would like to register a wager with the Long Now prediction registry and betting site? http://longbets.org/


Is an individual soldier not an autonomous weapon? Autonomy in war is an unchangeable given, not something to be (or that can be) overcome.

Talking about "autonomous weapons" as something to "overcome" seems like anti-AI fear-mongering. There doesn't seem to be any real basis for it other than assuming as a foregone conclusion that AI is necessarily prone to inhumane malice. I'm vastly more afraid of most humans having weapons than I am of AI having weapons.


I don't think it's as clean a division as you suggest.

Imagine somebody takes a drone platform with decent processing power, mounts a gun like that, and builds in basic target-seeking. Then they make 100 of those and turn them loose in a major metropolitan area. They'd fit neatly into a box truck and cost under $100k in parts.

It might not be as deadly as 100 people with guns, but logistically it's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper, and I'd expect it to have a higher terror value. Especially if you have them mostly land on rooftops and wait for a random period.

That's reasonably doable given current tech. And we expect a lot of progress in ML and robotics over the next decade. Imagine ones that listen for police radio frequency use and then very accurately target people in uniform, for example. Ones that can wait days or weeks outside charging. Ones that collaborate to map, track, and overcome threats.

Personally I'm not particularly worried about it. America already has a lot of weapons and explosives sloshing around; I expect we'll figure out how to deal with this too. But I do expect we'll have to deal with it. Too much of our existing defense is tuned for humans. E.g., fences and walls have been an important part of defense technology for at least 10,000 years.


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