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I know a couple of people who do that, but unless you settled in a really cheap country (for Russians that would likely be Armenia or Kazakhstan), you would really struggle to make ends meet with a Russian salary. And IT-folks who are used to luxury in Russia do not like that :) Also in countries with structured laws for social security, residence permits, pensions etc., you will most likely be caught for doing shady things (not paying local taxes or not paying social contributions). And if you do pay them, you are even more financially screwed. E.g. in Germany an employed person who is not supported by a local employer in paying social security would give away well over a half of their salary. So… either you REALLY live a shady life / life in a “developing” country with no tax control or you have to integrate and find a local / unsanctioned job. Maybe not right away, but it has been >4 years, most people have done this already. There are really little incentives to stay employed in Russia. Of course, there are companies who moved themselves (ex-Yandex parts, Jetbrains, etc). But they are now registered / taxed / employing elsewhere. Even if operating partially in Russian language.


Are you kidding? E.g. in Berlin there are major protests every couple of months. They are not destructive (why would we destroy Germany‘s infra and police?), so maybe you do not hear about them as much. But they are quite numerous and regular. Ideally they should be in Russia AND destructive, but most normal people fled, yes.


I am a top Russian CS degree alumna (HSE). I left Russia even before the war, but now most of my uni peers live and work abroad (US, EU, UK, Serbia, Armenia, Georgia, etc.). It is similar for the alumni of the other top universities there. And we made the right choice, both ethically and financially/career-wise, imo.


> both ethically and financially/career-wise, imo.

And, most importantly, you weren’t sent to the slaughterhouse and are still alive, thanks to your choice.


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Things will have to get a lot worse before russians will rise up. Young people that don't want to be tossed into putin's meatgrinder should be applauded, they make a hard choice and in a very concrete way act to show they will not be used.


> Things will have to get a lot worse before russians will rise up

Thats the thing. It's a nation that sort of embraces suffering.

And life hasn't got any meaningfully worse yet. Sure less vacation time and internet sometimes goes out. Otherwise it's kinda the same.


What's missing the most is the ability to organize.


Big respect to each of you, its never easy to move away. Talk is cheap, 10x moreso on internet. Actions define a man / woman and their legacy and self worth.


You made the right choice, but importantly, this is a single generation of uni graduates. Each subsequent generation finds it harder to leave, and even if all who would could, there will still be enough human capital for the war effort and then some. For comparison, brain drain is even stronger in Israel, proportionally.


> And we made the right choice, both ethically

FWIW, thank you for making this choice.


Thank you.


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get well


huh?


FWIW, this is exactly how you learn craftsmanship professions in Germany today. You become a apprentice of a Master for 3 years and learn as you work together, alongside theoretical learning.


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