Here is the 2020-2024 Model Y manual's instructions on opening the back door with power loss, doesn't seem that obvious to me (you have to "remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket" !): https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GU...
There was nothing deceptive about my statement. Every car has an obvious front door release. There are no cars where the non-obvious back door release is the only way out without electricity.
That's so patently unacceptable that I'm surprised you're taking that tack. You're in a lithium car fire, climbing into the front seat may not even be possible, and figuring out that your back door doesn't have an obvious release is time lost that all will have a cost in blood. There being two paths out of the maze doesn't make it not a maze.
At least on mine, if the car crashes, the child lock is disabled immediately.
BTW, the emergency release procedure should always be the same as the normal release process. All systems should fail to a safe state on a power loss. It’s easy to design a door lever that engages the powered open on pull and a mechanic mechanism when pulling harder or further.
Thank you for convincing me and everyone I know to never even ride in a Tesla, let alone buy one (and, sadly, I had planned to make one my next car).
I looked up the owner's manual description of the opening mechanism (posted by (ammar2, above) [0], and found it was an insanely dangerous design, literally worthy of an escape room as other sibling posters have described.
It is hidden below a mat, which must be removed, then a red tab pressed (not pulled), and there is a big caution AGAINST using it when the car has any power as it may damage the car.
So, you are in a rapidly expanding lithium fire, you must first determine if the car has power or not, and then you must fumble and root around to find which trim mat to pull, and then whether to pull (wrong) or push the red tab.
If you fail to do these steps quickly enough, you will die a horrible death in a fire (as many have).
If you use this lever at an inopportune time, you will damage the car.
In what other automobile does using a manual door-opening mechanism damage the vehicle?
This is one of the most insanely user- and owner-hostile designs I have ever encountered or heard of in life.
And it has actually unnecessarily cause at least a dozen people to be burned alive and conscious.
And here you are defending it in multiple posts like some idiotic fanboy. Seriously, rethink your priorities and your life. It is truly sad your identity so much depends on someone else's massively flawed personality and product designs.
I found it immediately (on a model 3) and the car started bitching at me for using the wrong door release. It took me longer to find the "correct", electronic door button.
It should come with a flight attendant and an obligatory five minute safety instruction before each ride. I've ridden in multiple Teslas, including many Ubers, and no one has even given me the manual to read or shown me how to escape in case of a fire.
Weirdly it's actually usually easier, in the sense of less force required, to open from the "bottom", non-stem end, but you end up with a less aesthetically pleasing result.
Unfortunately there also tends to be a little bit of a pith or seed cluster or something, at least when I've tried it, I'm sure it's edible, but I suspect the actual skin of the banana is probably edible also.
That may be so, but these are two very different things:
[has X]
[has X designed, built, and visible in the car such that it can be easily found and operated whilst panicking for your life, or rushing from outside while trying to save a trapped passenger's life]
There are people who would tell you that while Tesla may have the first, it does not have the latter, but they cannot because they are dead, and should not be.
I own a 2023 model 3. The rear door releases are behind the door panel, apparently used for production, and not accessible to rear passengers. The front doors are double paned but the rears aren't. So I can only open the front doors but not bash out the window and the reverse in the back. Fun little puzzle I have to deal with if I get in a bad accident with my child.
I could just punch a hole in the door and route it, as many have done, but it has no child lock integration which could be problematic.
Why take what risk? Every make and model has issues. This car has 5/5 safety with best in class accident avoidance.
This lock issue is not regulated and many electric cars have this and/or other issues. It's not like I have great choices if I want to drive an electric sedan.
And no one ever found it in a crash. The door release is also only accessible from the inside which means people on the outside cannot open the door to help unconscious passengers.
How is that different than any other car? Most modern cars lock their doors when you put them in gear, making breaking the glass the only option to get in during an emergency.
Most European brands I've tried only lock the cars when the speed exceeds 20 km/h.
In addition, most brands I'm aware of will unlock the car when the airbags are deployed (Kia/Hyundai, Renault, Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW). Because these cars still have door handles, they can be opened by a bystander after a crash.
The issue is not that the doors are locked. The issue is that unlocked doors without door handles are still useless.
