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not really no. Compare to how many humans use the web or are simply connect to the internet, now that's impressive.

But knowing that many humans use the internet as a transport to a walled garden aware of their IRL identity and holding captive a heap of their personal data, this is frightening.


> not really no.

Please stop it.


They're only doing the right thing for them, this move seems to incidentally benefits users too but not really. it prevent outcomes such as users 1) closing their account / switching to another website 2) creating an additional fake profile only for work.

This article [1] is imho quite right, this is mostly a non-issue turned into PR.

1:http://rexriepe.com/2012/clever-pr-facebook-bends-a-non-stor...


An interesting view of slavery in Mauritania, it's important to raise awareness about slavery which has a natural tendency to fly under the radar.

But the sensationalist title is misleading, old style slavery is much more prevalent than this article let the reader believe, obvious cases are dubai and sex slaves, but there are more all across the world.

And there is the new style of slavery,the kind where people are free to get minimum wage to barely pay for food and shelter or maintaining themselves in debt, the kind where freedom is about choosing between brands or channels, choosing between a limited panel of wanna be leaders all funded by the same pocket.


You throw dirt in the faces of those who have and continue to suffer through slavery by comparing it to minimum-wage workers. Slavery and Poverty and very distinct and one certainly more evil than the other.


So according to your post, having more money = freedom ? Does it not look like what a slave to money would say to deny slavery ? Or as stated in the article: Various religions in many countries have been used to justify the continuation of slavery. "They make people believe that going to paradise depends on their submission,"

That's said, what you stated is false,it's a known fact that the abolition of old style slavery was to replace it with a new from of slavery, namely minimum wage slavery, according to a then emerging economic context. Something along these lines: freed slaves have to find money to buy food and shelter and are offered minimum wage for jobs doing what they used to do when they were slave.


You missed the point entirely. Slavery is about an absence of freedom. So-called "wage slavery" posits that an equivalent lack of freedom exists with people who are "bound" to their job.

But that is bullshit. Wage slavery is bunk. People aren't tied to jobs they hate because they have no choices, they are tied precisely because of the choices they've made.

Choices to buy smartphones, xboxes, big screen tvs, cable and internet service, cars. Choices to eat pre-made food, take-out, or restaurant food instead of cheaper fare like beans and rice. Choices to live alone in expensive housing instead of living with roommates in a cheap neighborhood. Choices to avoid keeping to a budget, avoid saving, avoid putting in the elbow-grease to acquire more skills.

That's about money but it's also about choice. When you have savings, when you live well within your means, when you build up your skillset then the whole goddamn world opens up for you. You have your choice of numerous jobs and even different careers. And especially you find that you are able to support yourself with part-time work. Is that slavery? No, that's freedom. And it's within the grasp of virtually anyone who works a job for a "wage". No it isn't easy, it takes sacrifices. But don't imagine that your slave master is your boss, your slave master is yourself, only you have put yourself in a box financially, mentally, and job skills wise that you feel you are trapped in.


If you are employed by an establishment that;

1) Does not pay you a wage for your work 2) Beats you for whatever they want to 3) Murders and often rape your children 4) Trades you for livestock 5) Offers you as gifts to their friends 6) Forces you to live under the mercy of the elements 7) Denies you the right to education 8) Brainwashes you into thinking all of the above are 'normal' and fair

...then I suggest you quit and consult a lawyer in your jursiction. Otherwise, what you describe has nothing to do with SLAVERY.


lol loved the last line, keep it up brother!


Does anyone know how the japanese judge story [2] and the german trickster Till Eulenspiegel [2] are related ? I knew the story as an adventure of Till Eulenspiegel.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Coka_Tadasuke#Famous_cases

[2] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Eulenspiegel


Google web search's secret: it's not searching what you tell it to search.

- suggest spelling corrections and alternative spellings - personalize your search by using information such as sites you’ve visited before - include synonyms of your search terms to find related results - find results that match similar terms to those in your query - search for words with the same stem, like "running" when you search for [ run ]

http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&...

Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bomb


Paradoxically this is also the reason why the biggest advertiser's search engine sucks more and more. This fuzzy search where he looks for all kind of synonyms instead of what he's asked means it often returns no useful results and misses the target by a solar system or two.

Looking for a film on the web = imdb no babies are born = no procreation

So let's search for "imdb no procreation": http://lmgtfy.com/?q=imdb+no+procreation and http://www.bing.com/search?q=imdb+no+procreation

Now let's turn off this fuzzy synonymous search, go on the results page for "the film where no more babies are born", click on "more search tools" in the sidebar and click "verbatim". Not only the actual results doesn't show up anymore but we now see this very story referenced several times further skewing the results towards confirmation bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bomb

I switched from metacrawler to google for my web searching in 1998, I can testify that it's getting worse and worse at providing relevant results for a while now and at the same time it gets better at tracking users and raising privacy concerns, censoring results, adding clutter, spam and ads, silently removing useful features. I've switched to duckduckgo in 2010 and rarely go back to google anymore.


You're only looking at one side of the coin. If you look at it from a FB stand point, FB connect is effective whatever the market.

See you can make money in a casino, some games offer better chances than other but in the end it's always the casino who makes the real money.


You may have misinterpreted what I said because I don't quite get what your point. FB connect is not effective for certain markets. Good luck getting cryptologists signing up for your FB Connect website.


It seems like a more or less reasonable solution but it defeats the whole point which is to use and abuse users' data and circle of facebook friends.

If you remember several years back when it was discovered that ads had become inefficient because people learned to filter them out after being exposed too much for too long but that if the ad came from a member of the social circle it bypassed this filter and has the potential go viral, which pretty much gave birth to so-called viral marketing.

Well it seems facebook is the realm of a combination of viral marketing (trying to pretend not to be an ad in disguise) and spammer strategy (a large enough number of potential marks insure some will fall for it). IINM this is what facebook currently pushes for in a renewed attempt to monetize their userbase.

This seems like a reasonable solution I said, because the real problem with facebook connect is that it links real world identities (or rather facebook profiles which is close enough to real world identities) to online activities that users don't necessarily want the world to know about. And while facebook uses this to collect even more data about its users, the users have no control over it

tl;dr: the real underlying problem of facebook connect is the same old "if you're not paying for it, then you're the product being sold".


Having to deal with registration and account management is a choice, not a necessity. From bugmenot to mytrashmail, examples of websites not having to solve account management are numerous.

The registration is often a barrier preventing people from using your service, and it's not even mandatory to have user management [1].

[1]: https://jobpoacher.com/blog/blog/2012/02/13/what-craigslist-...


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